http://waterandoranges.tumblr.com/post/83129531528/well-shit-my-post-about-the-enochian-has-been

waterandoranges:

WELL SHIT

My post about the Enochian has been totally proven wrong

http://drsilverfish.tumblr.com/post/49033229443/silvermoonphantom-for-translation-im-using

(thank you lacklusterpuddlesplash for bringing this to my attention, woah!)

Apparently I haven’t done my research on this. The…

Lol you should never expect Hollywood to ever do anything occult related justice. Check out my post titled ‘enochian for supernatural fans’. For a bit of accurate info on it.

http://casquecest.tumblr.com/post/83020119645/soror-dxm-casquecest-i-want-to-know-why-the

soror-dxm:

casquecest:

I WANT TO KNOW WHY THE ENOCHIAN LETTER ‘PA’ WAS USED FOR THE ANGEL SIREN SIGIL IT DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING INSOFAR AS I KNOW, ASIDE FROM TRANSLITERATING AS THE LETTER ‘B’ IN ENGLISH.

ANGELS ARE ATTRACTED THE LETTER ‘B’ WITH A SUN SHINING BEHIND IT.

ADDENDUM:…

They probably are, tbh. I don’t watch the show but it would be completely believable to me if they realized early on how complicated & diverse the practice of Enochian magic and interpretations of the language are, and instead opted to just make it look cool rather than being true to the system.

casquecest:

I WANT TO KNOW WHY THE ENOCHIAN LETTER ‘PA’ WAS USED FOR THE ANGEL SIREN SIGIL  IT DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING INSOFAR AS I KNOW, ASIDE FROM TRANSLITERATING AS THE LETTER ‘B’ IN ENGLISH.

ANGELS ARE ATTRACTED THE LETTER ‘B’ WITH A SUN SHINING BEHIND IT.

ADDENDUM:  IT’S ALSO THE FIRST LETTER OF THE ENOCHIAN ALPHABET, SO PERHAPS SOME MEANING CAN BE DERIVED THERE..? 

Protip: The writers of Supernatural probably don’t know enough about Enochian or care enough to have it mean anything. Stay out of the fandom if you want to learn anything about it.

Dunno what you’re doing Mr. Jupiter, but its getting mighty irritating.
*later* I think I understand now. He’s setting the stage.

Just a reminder:

abwatt:

theheadlesshashasheen:

prosperosfootnotes:

theheadlesshashasheen:

I am not a “scholar,” and I am not an “expert.”

I just read a lot of fucking books, mang.

Isn’t that pretty much the definition of a scholar, though? Or are you requiring Peer Review?

Well, the term ‘scholar’ comes from the late Latin…

The trouble with being a scholar of gnosticism is that divine inspiration in the present counts for as much as knowing what the great gnostic masters of the past had to say abut their own divine inspiration…

*peers at theheadlesshasheen* I’ll look you over again, but you seem to know what you’re talking about. Is that review enough by a peer?

Or do you need someone with the title “Marquis” or “Earl” to do it?

IMO what makes some one a scholar is their ability to know how to study efficiently. Anyone can read a book and draw their own conclusions, but a scholar draws conclusions from the texts using corroborating evidence and information from other sources and references them properly. That’s why not every shmuck on earth with access to Google is called a scholar.

saulcalvino:
Hi, I'm in the middle(three months) of the attainment of the Knowledge and Conversation of the HGA,now my question is if is there anything wrong if a perform a couple of goetic evocations in the next months or should I wait until the process is complete? My concern is that maybe the evocations could cause some kind of disconnection between me and the HGA and I'd have to restart all over again

Yo, I’m just a neophyte so that’s a little out of my range of experience but IMO, wait until you’re finished.

lunar-lavender:

soror-dxm:

lunar-lavender:

Like…it’s a different system of magic basically. Very ceremonial and all the names are based on grids revealed to John Dee through Edward Kelley through some woo.

Some of them have great names like Aaan and Doop which is pretty awesome, but the experience I had with them was just Not At All Fun and the general vibe I got was that they were kind of like gigantic unthinking energy-based computers and I just bleeehhh don’t get along with them. Creeped me the hell out. People have had WAY better experiences than that, so take mine with with a grain of salt.

Whereas what we usually think of angels are named from Judaism, some Christianity (not nearly as much, the Bible itself hardly names any at all, just vague mention of offices they hold and numbers of their ranks), Islam, and if you’re really looking, a smattering of Zoroastrianism.

The experiences I’ve had with them are pretty limited, but I do go to a massage therapist around here who says he’s guided by Raphael and Haniel, and I dunno but he does FANTASTIC work despite barely even applying pressure, and thirty minutes of just plain chair massage give me the best fibro relief I’ve found since actual prescription meds for it, so there’s that. I believe him. The energetic, I don’t know what to call it, presence? when he’s doing his thing is really warm and kind and forgiving and not at all like what I’d expected coming off of having met EHNB and the four major elemental angels.

Within a ceremonial system I don’t know if they’re actually considered the same kind of spirits or not. You’d need to ask an actual mage that. All I can say from the viewpoint of a layperson with some energy sensitivity is that they came off as damn near polar opposites.

I’ve had great success with the Enochian system. Aczinor has been the most considerate, cooperative, and friendly to work with but the others are always courteous and willing to work. OP, how did you supposedly “meet” the Enochian angels and why on earth did you summon names from the Tablet of Union without first working with lesser Angels? What kind of preparatory work did you do before trying?

NONE. It was Lon Milo DuQuette summoning EHNB and the primary elemental angels off the Tablet of Union at Pantheacon 2013 to show people their past lives.

Like, I get that you’re confused by this. I found it super confusing too. It’s the kind of thing that does take a ton of preparation and understanding and having it dumped on an unprepared room of 300+ people was a pretty dumb thing to do, IMHO. (The full details are in this post, though it’s not really that material to the conversation.)

I’m definitely not trying to represent Enochian. This was one experience I had with it and the only one, and I was way out of my depth. Like, I literally went to a panel at a convention, and that’s the only brush with it I’ve had. 0/10 would not do again, but that’s me, and I understand full well that my mileage is really not what most others get — but I’m not a ceremonial mage, so.

Wow… That was really shitty to do. I’d be a pissed off Angel if I was forced to perform like that for people who offered me nothing in return. When you work with the Angels on a more personal level, it feels a lot different. I wouldn’t dream of treating any spirit like that. Man, I can’t get over the arrogance of that. Actually working the system in a private setting is a much more rewarding and pleasant experience. Ofc you’re free to try or not try it again but I just have to tell you that it’s not supposed to be done like that, so that’s the reason it felt hostile..

lunar-lavender:

Like…it’s a different system of magic basically. Very ceremonial and all the names are based on grids revealed to John Dee through Edward Kelley through some woo.

Some of them have great names like Aaan and Doop which is pretty awesome, but the experience I had with them was just Not At All Fun and the general vibe I got was that they were kind of like gigantic unthinking energy-based computers and I just bleeehhh don’t get along with them. Creeped me the hell out. People have had WAY better experiences than that, so take mine with with a grain of salt.

Whereas what we usually think of angels are named from Judaism, some Christianity (not nearly as much, the Bible itself hardly names any at all, just vague mention of offices they hold and numbers of their ranks), Islam, and if you’re really looking, a smattering of Zoroastrianism.

The experiences I’ve had with them are pretty limited, but I do go to a massage therapist around here who says he’s guided by Raphael and Haniel, and I dunno but he does FANTASTIC work despite barely even applying pressure, and thirty minutes of just plain chair massage give me the best fibro relief I’ve found since actual prescription meds for it, so there’s that. I believe him. The energetic, I don’t know what to call it, presence? when he’s doing his thing is really warm and kind and forgiving and not at all like what I’d expected coming off of having met EHNB and the four major elemental angels.

Within a ceremonial system I don’t know if they’re actually considered the same kind of spirits or not. You’d need to ask an actual mage that. All I can say from the viewpoint of a layperson with some energy sensitivity is that they came off as damn near polar opposites.

I’ve had great success with the Enochian system. Aczinor has been the most considerate, cooperative, and friendly to work with but the others are always courteous and willing to work. OP, how did you supposedly “meet” the Enochian angels and why on earth did you summon names from the Tablet of Union without first working with lesser Angels? What kind of preparatory work did you do before trying?

cthakitty:
Hi I've been going around asking for advice on finding my own path as I've been feeling a bit lost spiritually & wanting to get back into magick while un-learning some harmful neo-wiccan practices I learned back in the day & was wondering if you had any tips/advice or if you know of any good groups dealing with different types of magick? Thank you for your time!

If you’re wanting to get rid of spiritual gunk, then I personally recommend staying away from groups for now. However if you’re just looking to expand your knowledge base, there’s not really a all-in-one 101 style group. Pick a subject, make a binder or notebook, and study the subjects one by one. Astrology and tarot are a good place to start.

The thing I love about Enochian magic is that you can experiment with it as long as you follow a few basic rules. This is true precisely because Dee left holes in the system. For sure going to explore this a bit more.